DUST Search - Amarr Scout

Mejt0 wrote:

I was using Caldari Scout since its release to this month when I respeced out of it because Gallente and Minmatar are the only scouts you need.
And yes, whenever I played with it I was scoring nice kill streaks.

Now time to process your post.
You wrote about range amplifiers. I don't know if you are trolling, but range amplifiers are what Amarr scout should fit to make his passive scans "usable". Caldari Scout has 45m scan range and don't need range amplifiers.

Fit I posted before was in response to you Amarr scout fit as a light assault. Caldari Scout has best shield stats in the game (low delays + 50 hp/s regen, +3.5 reps).

I am more scared of an ARR than any other gun in this game at this point. Once again, you have to be trolling. Nobody throws flux grenade at a scout. You can OHK any scout with Core locus.

You have enough PG to fit that.

And at the end, Amarr Scout doesn't fill any roles.
It is supposed to be scout hunter, living scanner. But after ewar changes and ewar mods (range amps) nerf passive scans are terrible at detecting scouts. All you need is 2 damps (all scouts) to be completely invisible to mid/far Amarr scout scans. I'm not counting inner ring because it's only few meters of scans which don't work most of the time.
Use your scout with a rifle (not SG/nk) against any Assault/Commando and you will get raped.

Gallente logistic can scan better than Amarr Scout over 200meters and provide super strong scans over 100meters.
If Amarr Scout would be any good people would use it over other scouts, but they don't.
The only place I see amarr scouts is in public/fw matches where they play for "fun".

Aeon Amadi in his post some time ago (where you wrote as well) pointed out what should be done in order to make Amarr Scout important.
For me it looks like you are trying to defend Amarr scout because you use it. You don't look at the case from above, you don't take into account other suits and what can they do.

Need a speedy bro scout? Mail me,comes with shotgun and 20 pound bag of catnip for teh clonocide.(teh fak,cannot spell)


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maybe deadcatz the nomercs 426	Posted - 2015.08.05 00:00:00 - [1] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: I have way to much CPU and PG left to do anything. :( I feel empty inside. I have fit every proto module and Sidearm I could and Still I feel empty. Why so much CPU and PG? Try double complex kincats,complex reps and ferroscale,proto weapons and dual complex damage mods. Then talk. Need a speedy bro scout? Mail me,comes with shotgun and 20 pound bag of catnip for teh clonocide.(teh fak,cannot spell)
maybe deadcatz the nomercs 426	Posted - 2015.08.05 00:01:00 - [2] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: That's to make up for the fact that it is a watered down Caldari Scout Plenty sure this 'watered down caldari '' scout is ten times better than the actual caldari scout. Need a speedy bro scout? Mail me,comes with shotgun and 20 pound bag of catnip for teh clonocide.(teh fak,cannot spell)
maybe deadcatz the nomercs 426	Posted - 2015.08.05 00:37:00 - [3] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: That's to make up for the fact that it is a watered down Caldari Scout Plenty sure this 'watered down caldari '' scout is ten times better than the actual caldari scout. It goes like this : First place : Gallente Second place : Minmatar/Caldari Third place : empty Forth place ; Amarr And nah, never. Amarr is between a scout and an assault (light assault). And we know how light assaults ended. Wrong. Gal scout is first,due to it being a GREAT scout Min scout is second,because of its high speed,nova bonus and hacking bonus,plus versatility Amarr scout comes third with its HIGH capabilities as a hybrid assault scout. (Try double complex kincats,adv reps,complex damp,double krins or basic damage mods,any weapon.heck ive run it with a sl4 assault rail rifle and it performed amazingly) Then puttering in at last is the cal scout. With scramblers eating sheild in a instant and the genral bad stamina of the caldari AND its low pg youd be hard pressed into certain roles,being a walking glass radar that a gal logi easily can outdo with just its suit bonus and a scanner. And put of all the times ive seen a cal scout it was just the apex variant,no ck.0 no c1 series just the apex. Thats how bad the cal scout is right now. I see ALMOST NO ONE USE IT ANYMORE. Need a speedy bro scout? Mail me,comes with shotgun and 20 pound bag of catnip for teh clonocide.(teh fak,cannot spell)
maybe deadcatz the nomercs 426	Posted - 2015.08.05 01:27:00 - [4] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Caldari scout has the ability to be as deadly as gallente due to its dampening bonus. Amarr scout in the other hand can be very easily scanned, suffers from cloak and its bonuses are inferior compared to what gallogi can do. Once again, what are you trying to achive with Amarr scout? You can scan but in order to do so you sacrifice your killing/hiding potential which is counter productive. You will faster catch enemy scout with an eye rather than with passive scans. Fitting it like an assault is also proving how bad the situation is. Amarr Assault would destroy Amarr Scout. Ps. I could as well fit a cal scout to have 450 shields, 150 armor, be fast and under proto scans. But again, what's the point in fitting scout as an assault if assault does it better. You also don't use any modules associated with your bonuses. Which further shows how redundant it is. Oh lolz tries to counter with stats. Bad stamina counters any point in speed. Low armour and terrible rep (0.5 hp a sec)(and ew armour tanking a cal suit,what kinda scrub are you?) Range amp nerfs,just ewar in general. Scramblers and and every sheild based weapon destroying sheilds in a sec,so that little bit of armour you do have can barely eat a scrambler shot. Flux grenades. Low pg so quad complex sheild extenders and kincats wont leave much fitting space unless you REALLY invest in weapon optimization. In the stats sheet the cal and am scout are on a equal level. In game the am scout just fits more roles. And unless you actaully run the cal scout as frequently as i run the am scout youd notice one of two things.1.youpl be seeing the 'downed' screen really often. And my name as your killer. 2. Scramblers will kill you even faster. So go ahead and prove it. Make a video were you go full cal scout and wreck the enemy team.(no apex,thats a weak move) Need a speedy bro scout? Mail me,comes with shotgun and 20 pound bag of catnip for teh clonocide.(teh fak,cannot spell)
maybe deadcatz the nomercs 428	Posted - 2015.08.05 14:59:00 - [5] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: I was using Caldari Scout since its release to this month when I respeced out of it because Gallente and Minmatar are the only scouts you need. And yes, whenever I played with it I was scoring nice kill streaks. Now time to process your post. You wrote about range amplifiers. I don't know if you are trolling, but range amplifiers are what Amarr scout should fit to make his passive scans "usable". Caldari Scout has 45m scan range and don't need range amplifiers. Fit I posted before was in response to you Amarr scout fit as a light assault. Caldari Scout has best shield stats in the game (low delays + 50 hp/s regen, +3.5 reps). I am more scared of an ARR than any other gun in this game at this point. Once again, you have to be trolling. Nobody throws flux grenade at a scout. You can OHK any scout with Core locus. You have enough PG to fit that. And at the end, Amarr Scout doesn't fill any roles. It is supposed to be scout hunter, living scanner. But after ewar changes and ewar mods (range amps) nerf passive scans are terrible at detecting scouts. All you need is 2 damps (all scouts) to be completely invisible to mid/far Amarr scout scans. I'm not counting inner ring because it's only few meters of scans which don't work most of the time. Use your scout with a rifle (not SG/nk) against any Assault/Commando and you will get raped. Gallente logistic can scan better than Amarr Scout over 200meters and provide super strong scans over 100meters. If Amarr Scout would be any good people would use it over other scouts, but they don't. The only place I see amarr scouts is in public/fw matches where they play for "fun". Aeon Amadi in his post some time ago (where you wrote as well) pointed out what should be done in order to make Amarr Scout important. For me it looks like you are trying to defend Amarr scout because you use it. You don't look at the case from above, you don't take into account other suits and what can they do. Ive run every suit in the game moron. And stop attemping to assume that everyone runs a suit exactly the way you run it. I spot people with those passives because im MOVING AROUND AT HIGH SPEED SHOTGUNNING CERTAIN SUITS OUT OF THE POINT AND ACTAULLY USING MY EYES Ive had a basic amarr scout set up that has claimed so much proto already. Ive run my ak.0 in pc(as i only run this suit) double drop uplinks,double kincats. Im a linkdropper and enemy home pointer taker. I rush to the enemy point,drop some links along the way. Then clear out enemies at their home point. Relying only on my reps and duvolle specialist shotgun. And i have fit scouts with evey light weapon the game has to offer(excluding the boring mass driver.) I use scrambler pistols and submachine guns. Any weapon combo available,ive probaly run. I dont FToM unlike some people. I dont need fancy assualt suits to kill people. I dont pad amour I dont rely on stupid mechanics like jumpy mass drivers All ive ever REALLY run are scouts as my attack And when i still had logis because the contoller didnt work and had mouse and keyboard i ran a low hp logi that saved many a persons famcy suit. I dont squad up and quesync pubs just because i feel like i need backup. I que solo,go postive,drop 20+ mercs a match I fight AGAISNT you silly quesync sissies with your scanners and logis. I fit WHATEVER THE FUK I WANT,AND I HAVE FUN WITH IT. I joined the game a year ago. Ran lots of amour,switched to a cal assault,eventually started scouting,found my calling. Its ok. We get it. You dont like suits that take skill or forgive you for making a mistake. You dont understand how the world works because your own ego is stopping you. We can fix that. Not really. Not all of us want to respec into the FOTM with mummies credit card. Not all of us play the game as serious as you do. Not all of tryhard in pubs. Not all of us kd pad.(i warpoint pad via kills and hacks_screw kd. Mines stuck at 1.54 since i started dust) Not all of us are tryhard scrubs. Not all of us need fancy scanners just to spot a scout running cloaked out in a feild. Not all of us need to strafe in a assault mk.0 just to get kills Some of us,just want to play and have fun. Ccp gave us the groundwork.its not perfect but its there. And when life gives you lemons,you build i high powered lemon cannon and shoot your enemies with it. Anyway im done with this kd padding,white bread eating,protostomping only with a squad,egoistic,SCRUB. go quesync a pub and drive out our playerbase and then whine that people leave the battle or something if that makes you feel better. Deadcatz out(to go work in my backbreaking job as a roofer(who happesn to be hispanic) in the hot texas sun. Need a speedy bro scout? Mail me,comes with shotgun and 20 pound bag of catnip for teh clonocide.(teh fak,cannot spell)
maybe deadcatz the nomercs 428	Posted - 2015.08.05 15:28:00 - [6] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Look at that. Seems like I touched you in the bad spot causing a massive butthurt of yours. Save these pathetic complains to yourself. I thought we discuss here whatever Amarr Scout is useful or not. yet you need to bring your ego to this. If you don't see where the problem lays you shouldn't take a part in discussion. Instead copy what you just wrote here and paste it in new thread. Call it "maybe deadcatz for cpm, list of complains". I feel like they threw you againt the wall when you were a baby. All of the suits are useful. You just have to fit them in a appropiate way. And before you go off on range amp this,and nerfed to this. You dont need to use the range amp on the amarr scout. The description reads" innate amour repair keeps the amarr scout on the frontlines for longer" meaning of course that this is a FRONTLINE scout. Made to wreck and flush out other scouts and tussle with assaults and heavies and live. Thats what the bonuses are for. Not just for scouts but to activley engage and consitantly halt advances by enemy forces. (Stamina:its kinda right there. Run longer,and faster than thr average assault or heavy. Fit kincats to take advantage. Scan precision: to spot the BIGGER targets closer to your reach and deal with them accordingly.) Again,i see the whining in play 'wah wah this suit is hard to understand i dont like it' And since when do the amarr need to be stealthy? Not sure if the empress would aprreciate any amarr suits trying to be stealthy and scuttle around the battle. Theres a reason the amarr suits are described as 'shrines' You wouldnt hide a shrine would you? Need a speedy bro scout? Mail me,comes with shotgun and 20 pound bag of catnip for teh clonocide.(teh fak,cannot spell)
maybe deadcatz the nomercs 428	Posted - 2015.08.05 15:54:00 - [7] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: I will give it one more chance. Prove I am wrong or leave this discussion. Amarr Scout role is to scan. Provide ewar help. If you don't fit ewar modules (such as range amplifiers and precision mods) you throw away your bonus for precision. How do you want to scan a scout with like 5-6 meters range of inner ring? When Gallente Logistic can do your job more effectively then you then what is your purpose on the field? Please, tell me what role do you fill? What makes your suit special, so other suits can't do it better? Amarr Scout can be better, all it needs is better scan range. Better bonus (dual ewar like cal/gal). Fine give it the dual bonus. Not that it bugs me that two suits already do this. Lemme keep the stamina bonus thats what sets it apart from the rest. Thats how i kick clone ass everymatch. Need a speedy bro scout? Mail me,comes with shotgun and 20 pound bag of catnip for teh clonocide.(teh fak,cannot spell)